was terribly impacted by 9/11, given the fact that 84 of our members died at the world trade center. one of the lessons of 9/11, mr. chairman, and superstorm sandy, in october, was that from an economic, from a national security point of view, from a homeland security point of view, the transportation system is critical. and each of the transportation agencies, new jersey transit, path, amtrak are in their dependent. when one or more of them, or in this case all of them, are taken out of service, the impact on the region from economic point of view, from a transportation plan you would also from a public safety national security and homeland security point of view is magnified, mr. chairman, and that point is exactly right. >> i'd like to at also in addition from a security standpoint, the integral element of the mta hurricane plan developed in concert with the city of new york is that indeed and its agencies or the service providers in evacuation.